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An interview with Albert Glasser

Randall D. Larson

Albert Glasser: My Life in Film Music in 1700 words

From an interview by Randall D. Larson, December 6, 1981

Albert Glasser seated at his ham radio equipment in BelAir, California

When did your interest in music begin?
I would say roughly when I was ten or eleven years old. I started taking piano lessons, but I didn’t have the patience to practice like I should, so I turned off of piano and turned to the flute. I became a good flautist. I played in football bands — got to see the football games free! — but it got me started, and I picked it up in a hurry. I became an usher at the Philharmonic Symphony, Hollywood Bowl, and very rapidly became wild about music. I fell in love with Richard Wagner, Johann Strauss and Richard Strauss, and it just developed and grew from there on.


What brought you into composing music for movies?

That came after I got through with my scholarship at USC, in 1934. I won the Alchin Chair Foundation Scholarship for composition and orchestration, and went to USC for six or eight months, but I didn’t learn too much of importance there. When I got through, the question was: well, now I’m a good composer and a good conductor, for a young man, but how do I make a living? This was in depression times, ’34, ’35… and everybody said “Look, a guy like you should go into the picture world, the Hollywood studios!” I thought that was a good idea, and I tried to break in.


I made a list of the various studios and their musical directors, and tried to contact each one individually on telephone. I called Leo Forbstein at Warner Bros and spoke to his secretary. I said “I’d like to speak to Mr. Forbstein.” She said “About what?” “Oh, I’m a young composer.” “Oh, I’m sorry, but he’s awfully busy right now,” which I figured. To circumvent that and find a way to get into the studios, I went to all the studios one day and waiting until the big shots came out. I asked a cop at the gates if Mr. Forbstein had come out yet. He said, “No, but he had a brand new Packard he just bought, with a new chauffeur. Gorgeous car. He leaves around five o’clock.” So I waited till five o’clock and he came out, him and his new car, and I wrote down the license plate.  Went down the following morning to the license bureau downtown, traced his address, and figure out the best way possible to see him would be on a Sunday morning. So the following Sunday morning I went out to his house with a bunch of my music — my violin concertos, my string quartets, all that kind of junk I’d been working my brains out on. I rang his doorbell, and luckily he answered the door himself, in a bathrobe, and he said, “What do you want, young man?” I told him, and he said, “Come in, I’m having breakfast.” I went into his kitchen, was given a cup of coffee, and I showed him my work. He looked at it and said, “You have beautiful handwriting. You ought to be a copyist.” I said, “What’s that?” “Well, they copy out the parts for the orchestra. You get paid 50 cents a page.”


From that start I became part of the copying staff at Warner Bros. in the music library. At that point in time, Erich Korngold was scoring A MIDSUMMER NIGHT’S DREAM and from there we went to CAPTAIN BLOOD, and I copied out a lot of that. I began to see what’s happening, how things were done. As one fast example, I would observe Max Steiner conducting one of his scores on stage, from a lot of things which I had copied off myself, and I’d see how he’d do it. When the orchestra would leave, I’d pick up the music from the stage, take I back to the library, put it on the shelves, catalog them, and when the copying staff would leave at 6:00 I would chase around the block, come back, and pick up some of Steiner’s sketches that I’d seen conducted that very afternoon. I’d take the sketches home, quietly, secretly, and analyze them; sitting up half the night analyzing what Steiner did. How did he catch that chord when Erroll Flynn shot the gun off, this marvelous effect, how did it work? I’d look at the sketch, “Oh, I see what he did here! The brass had this while the violins played that English horn played this while the cello played that. Excellent, beautiful work! I memorized a lot of his tricks, effects, and things. That’s a rough picture of how I got into the studios.


How did your first film scoring assignment come about?

Very simple. I was working as an orchestrator at MGM, on the staff during World War II. The man I was orchestrating for, Nathaniel Shilkret, used to say “Look young fella, you have a marvelous gift for writing. What the hell’s the matter with you? Stop orchestrating! You’re making a lot of money, but he real money is in composition. So get yourself into ASCAP and score movies.  Get your name intro ASCAP and it’ll pay for the rest of your life!” So I went along to various studios, but I had no credits. Wherever I went they said, “We know you’re good, young man, you’re terrific, great orchestrations, fine conductor, but you have no credits. We can’t sign you.” So finally I went to the private individual who controlled some of the small time composers in town (at the time MCA controlled everything. They wouldn’t even touch me with a ten-foot pile because  as nobody). I went to this guy, David Chudnow, and said “Look, I need credits!” He said, “Alright, I’ll tell you what. I’ve got a picture coming up, a mall one, a little stinker. I’ll give you $250 if you compose and orchestrate and copy and conduct; do the whole thing for $250.”


I said, “Oh my God, that’s like doing it for nothing.” He said “Sorry. Take it or leave it.” I said I’d take it. It wasn’t a question of the money, I wanted the credits. So he gave me the first little picture I composed, which was THE MONSTER MAKER (1944). Good little score, and at least I saw my name on the credits for the first time, up on the screen. Once I got my hand on that, knocking on the studio doors, saying “Hey, I’ve got a credit! I’ve got a credit!” little by little things began to happen. Columbia called up, “We saw your little picture, can you do a full score for us?” “Be happy to!” Wherever I went, it picked up.


The next picture Chudnow gave me to score, he said, “Well, I’ll give you $50 more,” and little by little he began increasing my salary. But luckily one of the guys I worked for at first, for very little, was a gentleman named Phillip Krasne, and he gave me a little film called CISCO KID to do, an unknown series that was just getting started. Krasne called up about six months later and said, “Hey, we got another little picture, a little jungle thing. Want to do it?” I said sure, and I came over to his office and he said, “What’d you get on the last show, that little CISCO thing?” I know where this was going, so I said “About $350.” He said, “What?!” and almost swallowed his cigar. “I gave Chudnow three thousand bucks!” I said, “Well, Chudnow kept it, he gave me $350.” He got on the telephone, called Chudnow, and said “You lousy crook! Don’t you ever come around here anymore!” So from there on I was in like Flynn with Krasne. The CISCO KID went into a series and developed into a big thing, and eventually came onto television and that opened up the doors.


What prompted your retirement from film scoring afterwards?

There are several good reasons for that. Number one, rock and roll was coming in so heavy in the middle ‘60s. Wherever you went, they wanted a rock score or an electric score. On my last film, CONFESSIONS OF AN OPIUM EATER (1962), they didn’t want any instruments at all, they just wanted synthesizers, so I had about five or six electronic things. It didn’t come out bad, as far as I was concerned. But with that, you’d walk into a studio, talk to a young producer (I say young because I was getting older) who’d say “Can you give me a rock score, real cheap?” “Nope,” I said. I tried but no go. But the whole area was changing. All the old B movies were finished and gone forever, television was so strong and so heavy, and most of the features were just big, colossal things. Most of the production crews that I’d worked for over the years were getting out of the business. They couldn’t make any more money. All of the sudden all my sources of income were drying up. The only things that were left were movies with rock and roll music, and television series, which were all handled through MCA, of which I was not a member, and I was off in the middle somewhere. So I retired for about two years, until I got tired of playing golf and accidentally fell into piano tuning. I started to take some lessons in piano tuning and got hooked on it. It was right down my line — I had a great ear for music to begin with, and I’m also mechanical. So that’s become a fulltime thing and I love it.


Do you ever get the urge to write again?

Oh, yes. The urge is always there. Music never stops, 24 hours a day it’s always roaring through your head. And the desire to write? Yes, but the question is: what for? I wrote so much music. The ability to write, it always was there, and always will be, but unless there’s a reason for it, you tell me why I should, and maybe I might!



Remembering Albert Glasser, the Best Piano Tuner in L.A.

January 25, 1916 (Chicago) – May 4, 1998 (age 82, Los Angeles)

by Pascal Dupont 10 May, 2024
Charles Allan Gerhardt English version adapted by Doug Raynes - FRENCH VERSION AND COLLECTION had a reputation as a great conductor, record producer and musical arranger. His major work at RCA on the Classic Film Scores series earned him recognition from film music devotees of Hollywood’s Golden Age, as well as other renowned conductors of his day. Born on February 6, 1927 in Detroit, Michigan, Charles Gerhardt developed a passion for music and percussion instruments from an early age. At the age of five, he took piano lessons, and by the age of nine, had established a solid reputation as an orchestrator and composer. He spent his early school years in Little Rock, Arkansas, then after 10 years, having completed his schooling, moved with his family to Illinois for his military duties, he served in the U.S. Navy during World War II as a chaplain's aide in the Aleutian Islands, then became an active member of the Veterans of Foreign Wars. He went on to study at the University of Illinois, at the College of William and Mary, and later at the University of Southern California. Throughout his time at school Gerhardt was attracted not only to music, but also to the sciences. Passionate about the art of recording, he joined Westminster Records for five years, until the company ceased operations, and then joined Bell Sound. One day, he received a phone call from George Marek to meet with the heads of Reader's Digest, to discuss producing recordings for their mail-order record business; a contact that was to secure his musical future and a rich career spanning more than 30 years. Gerhardt's first job for Reader's Digest was to produce a record; “A Festival of Light Classical Music”; a 12 LP box set that he produced in full. One of Gerhardt's finest projects was the production of another 12 LP box set, “Les Trésores de la Grande Musique (Treasury of Great Music)”, featuring the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by some of the leading figures of the day: Charles Munch to Bizet and Tchaikovsky, Rudolf Kempe to Strauss and Respighi, Josef Krips to Mozart and Haydn, Antal Dorati to Strauss and Berlioz, Brahms 4th Symphony by Fritz Reiner and Sibelius’ 2nd Symphony by Sir John Barbirolli. In the 1950s he conducted works by Vladimir Horowitz, Wanda Landowska, Kirsten Flagstad and William Kapeli. In the early 1960s, Gerhardt lived in England, where he made most of his recordings, but kept a foothold in the United States, mainly in New York. Often, when he went to the United States after a period of recording sessions, he would stop off in Baltimore and spend some time listening to cassettes of his new recordings. Gerhardt loved percussion instruments, especially tam-tams. One of his favorite recordings was the Columbia mono disc of Scriabin's Poem of Ecstasy, with Dimitri Mitropoulos and the New York Philharmonic. He had great admiration and respect for the many conductors he worked with, starting with Arturo Toscanini, with whom he worked for several years before the Maestro's death. It was Toscanini who suggested that Gerhardt become a conductor, which he did! His career as an orchestra director began when he had to replace a conductor who failed to show up for rehearsals. It was a position he would later occupy for various recording sessions and occasional concerts. His classical recordings include works by Richard Strauss, Tchaikovsky, Wagner, Ravel, Debussy, Walton and Howard Hanson. Hired by RCA Records, he transferred 78 rpm recordings of Enrico Caruso and other artists to 33 rpm. He took part in recordings by soprano singer Kirsten Flagstad and pianist Vladimir Horowitz. He worked with renowned conductors such as Fritz Reiner, Leopold Stokowski and Charles Munch, from whom he learned the tricks of the trade. Still at RCA, he assisted Arturo Toscanini, with whom he perfected his conducting skills. Then, in 1960, he produced recordings for RCA and Reader’s Digest in London, and joined forces with sound engineer Kenneth Wilkinson of Decca Records (RCA's European subsidiary), The two men got on very well and shared a passion for recording and sound quality, making an incredible number of recordings over a 30-year period. Also in 1960, RCA and Reader's Digest entrusted him with the production of a 12-disc LP box set entitled “ Lumière du Classique (A Festival of Light Classical Music) ”, sold exclusively by mail order. With a budget of $250,000, Gerhardt assumed total control of the project: repertoire, choice of orchestras and production. He recorded in London, Vienna and Paris, and hired such top names as Sir Adrian Boult, Massimo Freccia, Sir Alexander Gibson and René Leibowitz. The success of this project, in terms of both musical quality and sound, earned him recognition from his employers. Other projects of similar scope followed… A boxed set of Beethoven's symphonic works with René Leibowitz and The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra. A boxed set of Rachmaninoff's works for piano and orchestra with Earl Wild, Jascha Horenstein and the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, the above mentioned 12 LP disc set “Trésor de la Grande Musique (Treasury of Great Music)” with the Royal Philharmonic conducted by some of the greatest directors of the time: Fritz Reiner, Charles Munch, Rudolf Kempe, Sir John Barbirolli, Sir Malcolm Sargent, Antal Dorati and Jascha Horenstein, with whom Gerhardt had sympathized. In January 1964 in London, Gerhardt joined forces with Sidney Sax, instrumentalist and conductor, to form a freelance orchestra. This successful group went on to join the National Philharmonic Orchestra of London, an impressive line-up that would later become Jerry Goldsmith's orchestra of choice. With Peter Munves, head of RCA's classical division, he conceived the idea of recording an album devoted exclusively to the film music of Erich Wolfgang Korngold, one of his favorite composers. Enthusiastic about the project, Munves gave Gerhardt carte blanche, and was offered a helping hand by George Korngold, producer and son of the famous Viennese composer, who owned all the copies of his father's scores. The Adventure Began : The Sea Hawk: Classic Film Scores of Erich Wolfgang Korngold. For this first disc, Gerhardt selected 10 scores by Korngold, which he recorded in the Kingsway Hall Studio in London, renowned for its excellent acoustics. The disc thus benefits from optimal recording conditions, favoring at the same time the performances of the National Philharmonic (and its leader, Sidney Sax), a formidable orchestra made up of London's finest musicians and freelance soloists. Each album was recorded in the same studio, with Kenneth Wilkinson as sound engineer and George Korngold as consultant/producer. As soon as it was released, the album's success received strong acclaim in classical music circles and received a feature in Billboard No. 37, a first in this category in December 1972. It took no less than a year to sell the first 10,000 copies in all the specialist record suppliers and the album went on to sell over 38,000 copies, making it the fifth best-selling album in the “classical” category in 1973. On the strength of this success, Peter Munves and RCA entrusted Charles Gerhardt with the production of further discs devoted to other world-renowned composers of Hollywood music. The program includes several albums dedicated to Max Steiner and Erich Wolfgang Korngold plus one each to Miklos Rozsa, Franz Waxman, Dimitri Tiomkin and Bernard Herrmann, followed by 3 volumes associated with specific film stars such as Bette Davis, Errol Flynn and Humphrey Bogart. Then, a disc devoted to Alfred Newman, a composer who was a pillar of the famous Hollywood sound, who Gerhardt admired and had met: “Newman was a charming man, full of good humor. He was friendly, fun and always had a joke. With his eternal black cigar in hand, he was a composer by trade, down-to-earth, discussed little about himself but was a first-rate advisor in my life. “ Gerhardt would consult certain composers in advance about how to recreate suites from their works, or when this wasn't possible, he would rearrange the suites himself and submit them to the composers for approval. "Some critics complained that my suites were too short, but my aim in the case of each album was to present a well-split 'portrait' of the composer, highlighting his many creative facets". Although Korngold, Newman and Steiner were no longer around to lend their support, Gerhardt was lucky enough to still work with Herrmann, Rózsa and Tiomkin as consultants who turned up at the recording studio to lend a hand. Gerhardt also had the idea of creating albums focusing on a single film star. Three specific volumes were devoted to music from the films of Humphrey Bogart, Errol Flynn and Bette Davis. Although these albums suffer from too great a diversity of genres, they still offer the chance to hear and discover rare and previously unpublished compositions. The best conceived album was arguably the one devoted to Bette Davis. Conscious of the important role played by music in her films, the legendary actress took part in the conception of the album, knowing that it favored scores by Max Steiner designed for Warner Bros. The Collection Begins ! Gerhardt's passion for certain composers knows no bounds, but he soon envisages a disc devoted to Miklos Rozsa, including suites for “Spellbound” and “The Red House”, one of his favorite scores, which he will exhume to create one of the longest suites in the series. At the same time, he received various fan wish lists and films to watch, such as “The Four Feathers”, which he had never seen and which gave him the opportunity to discover a splendid score by Miklos Rozsa that he had never heard before. He was disappointed, however, not to be able to conceive a longer “Spellbound” sequel for rights reasons. Despite RCA's full approval, Gerhardt realized that it was not easy to record film music in its original form, as few were ever edited, played and made available for rental. For The Sea Hawks album, things were simpler, as Georges Korngold had copies of his father's scores, and Warner Bros had also archived material in good condition. From the outset, Gerhardt encountered other major problems in the search for and discovery of scores hidden away in other studios, often with the unpleasant surprise of discovering missing or incomplete conductors, or others heavily modified by orchestrators during recording sessions, or the surprise of discovering, in certain cases, instrumentation information noted in shorthand on the edges of the conductor score. For the disc dedicated to Max Steiner, for example, the conductor score for “King Kong” had disappeared from the RKO archives, having been shipped in 1950 to poorly maintained warehouses in Los Angeles where it had become totally degraded and illegible. With the help of Georges Korngold, Gerhardt was able to reconstruct a substantial suite from the piano models left by Steiner at the time. This experience was repeated when the conductor score for Dimitri Tiomkin's “The Thing” was discovered in the same warehouse, in an advanced state of disintegration. Fortunately for Gerhardt, Tiomkin, who was still alive, had been able to provide precise piano maquettes with orchestration information in shorthand, revealing a complex and highly innovative style of writing. Tiomkin always composed at the piano, inscribing very specific information and signs on the edges of the scores in pencil, an ingenious system of his own invention that was difficult to decipher. “Revisiting the score of ‘The Thing from Another World’ was a complex task, involving experimental passages and an unorthodox orchestra. You can understand that I had a huge job on my hands. When I approached the recording sessions, it was not without some trepidation. However, the composer present made no criticism or comment on my work, and was delighted. He was delighted.” For “Gone With The Wind”, Steiner was against the idea of remaking a complete soundtrack, as he felt that too many passages were repeated. It was an opportunity for him to revisit his own score, integrating his favorite melodies. This synthesis gave him the opportunity to revitalize his music by eliminating the least interesting parts of the score. Conceived as long suites or isolated themes, the discs reflect the essence of the composers' work. The “Classic Film Scores” series by Franz Waxman, Bernard Herrmann and Miklos Rozsa etc will become a big hit with collectors. For Gerhardt, this will be an opportunity to unearth forgotten or rare scores such as Herrmann's “The White Witch” and “On a Dangerous Ground”, Hugo Friedhofer's “The Sun Also Rises” and early recordings for Waxman's “Prince Valliant” and Rozsa's “The Red House”, all with new, impeccable acoustics. For “Elisabeth and Essex”, Erich Korngold had already prepared a suite in the form of an Overture, which was given its world premiere in a theater. The suite for “The Adventures of Robin Hood” also pre-existed. Franz Waxman created his own suite for “A Place in the Sun”, which was also performed in concert. Dimitri Tiomkin, Miklos Rozsa and Bernard Herrmann acted as consultants and contributed arrangements to their scores. For the continuation of “White Witch Doctor”, Bernard Herrman added percussion to link the different musical tableaux. He did the same for the different parts of “Citizen Kane”. Miklos Rozsa saw an opportunity to add a male choir to the suite from “The Jungle Book”, based on an idea by Charles Gerhardt. For the record dedicated to Errol Flynn, Gerhardt re-orchestrated the theme “The Lights of Paris” from Hugo Friedhofer's “The Sun also Rises”, as the original was no longer available. “I wanted to go back to that time and systematically explore the very substance of the great film scores of the late 30s and 40s, sending them back directly to their images as dramatic entities. The desire to rediscover tunes we know and to take into account the contexts in which they were originally used. I decided to recreate these scores with their original orchestrations, and this could only be done by returning to the ultimate sources, as the composers had originally conceived them.” Keen to open up the collection to other genres, such as science fiction, Gerhardt dedicated two further albums to the series in 1992. The first featured contemporary sequels to “Star Wars” and “Close Encounters of the Third Kind”, promoting the work of John Williams, a leading composer of new film music. Then another called “The Spectacular World of Classic Film Scores”, presenting a disappointing compilation of scores that had already been recorded, except for the creation of a sequel to Dimitri Tiomkin's “The Thing From Another World” and Daniele Amfitheatrof's rarely heard theme “Dance of the Seven Voiles” from Salome. In 1978, the collection was published in Spain by RCA Cinema Treasures. In the USA and Europe, the Classic Film Scores LP series was reissued in the early 80s with a black art deco cover and colored star index. All Volumes in the First Series Were Reissued : By the end of the '80s, the series was running out of steam, and Charles Gerhardt planned to relaunch his collection with albums dedicated to famous American actresses, a new volume for Max Steiner and the Western, a volume reconstructing the score of Waxman's “The Bride of Frankenstein”, followed by volumes devoted to Alex North, Hugo Friedhofer, Victor Young and Elmer Bernstein... But RCA would not support Gerhardt in these projects, preferring to release the collection on CD for the first time. In early 1990, RCA asked Gerhardt to supervise and co-produce the collection, which he saw as an opportunity to revisit some of the volumes, inserting tracks that had not appeared on the LPs or extending certain suites. The volume devoted to Franz Waxman, “Sunset Boulevard”, was the first to be released. The CD did not benefit from any particular promotion, but sold very well, as did the other CDs that followed... A collection marked by a new design in silver pantone. The CDs series was reissued in 2010, still under the RCA Red Seal label, but distributed by Sony Music Entertainment. RCA Victor's Classic Films Scores series represents a unique collection in the history of film music recordings. 14 recordings of rare quality, produced by Georges Korngold and Charles Gerhardt to become one of the revelations of the reissue phenomenon. Other Concepts... Later, Gerhardt spent most of his time in London, continuing to make recordings. After retiring from RCA in 1986, he returned to independent work for Readers Digest and other record labels, a position he held in production and musical supervision until 1997. Since 1991 he had lived in Redding, California. In later years, he did not appear professionally, refusing all public invitations because of his desire to remain discreet. In his entourage he was close to three cousins, Lenore L Engel and Elizabeth Anne Schuetze, both living in San Antonio, and cousin Steven W Gerhardt of St. Pete Beach, Florida. In late November 1998 Charles Gerhardt was diagnosed with brain cancer and died of complications following surgery on February 22, 1999. He was 72 years old. Thus ends this tribute to Charles Gerhardt and the most famous collection of film music records: The Classic Film Scores series.
by Doug Raynes 24 Jan, 2024
Following on from Tadlow’s epic recording of El Cid, the same team – Nic Raine conducting and James Fitzpatrick producing – have turned their attention to a completely different type of epic film for the definitive recording of Ernest Gold’s Academy Award winning score for Otto Preminger’s Exodus (1960). The score is something of a revelation because aside from the main theme, the music has received little attention through recordings. Additionally the sound quality of the original soundtrack LP was disappointing and much music was deleted or cut from the film.
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